Are You Giong To Hunt Early ML Season

[hortontoter]

I know the youth season has a very adverse effect on my property. No one hunts my property, but some hunt on a couple farms not far from me. I'm sure the early ML season will have a greater effect.

[mrbb]

well I am the odd ball out, a little here
I ids like the NO bucks part of it, but at the same time I do see the point of it
I mean if we, hunters take out more doe sooner , it SHOULD make for a stronger more active bucks ,
come rut time looking for a doe, as with few doe about, they will have to move more to find one
and then again the way I see it is, I know last few yrs, I found that I tend to pass on many doe's Hoping a buck will show up
so this kind of forces my hand into doing some doe kill's
and with the inline, it also means m,any times a deer is dropped in its tracks, no tracking needed, a fast in and out hunt for me
but I also see the draw backs, from being in PA where its been going on now for several yrs
the amount of cheaters is scary in my neck of the woods
as kids and seniors are also allowed to use rifles in this early season
and they is almost like a free pass to cheaters to poach, as the rifle shots go un noticed this week
and so many also sadly, shoot a buck, and then tag it with the archery tag
BUt cheaters will be cheaters one way or the other
the State game depts. in my eye's just need to step up and be better on there toe's, and here they don't even make an effort it seems to me

and the other side effect is, all the gun shot's do make many bucks go nocturnal here as well, its a trail cam pic's proven for me
its starts once the velvet comes off , and the cheaters start up, and then after this week, about 70% of my bucks don't show up anymore on cam in dayight
only good of this I see is less get killed and have a chance to age here where 2.5 yr old bucks are still rare, so a Plus of sosrts I guess???

[hortontoter]

Like everything it has its pros and cons. I'll make a better conclusion after it comes and goes.

[nomad_archer]

In PA we have had early ML season for quite awhile. The positive is it has been doe only and has fairly low participation at least in the big woods where I hunt. As a bonus the leaves are still on the trees and everything is still very thick which limits the range of the ML severely usually to under 50 yards. Add to that that there is very little deer movement during the day time in early October and you have a recipie for a low success rate at least where I hunt.

[00buck]

yep........................ with my bow

[mrbb]

well I know I will not be liked for saying this, But I truely believe that just cause a person owns land, doesn't , no shouldn't mean they can make up a tag
I personally feel all that want to hunt should have to buy a lic and tag
having tags of all shapes and sizes, is part of a system that leads to failures and cheaters
NOT bashing anyone that use's land owner tags, oney is money I guess

just saying, that its an open window for troubles
and the fact that deer that visit private land, also live on public lands, or can, and vice versa
can also mean some folks don't chip in to the costs of things by not buying a lic! even if they only hunt theer lands, wildlife is NO one's!
having the means to own land , shouldn't mean a free tag in my book
I personally buy every lic and tag I can in PA, and I don't ever use or hunt many species, I look at it, as the fact I enjoy hunting, and its a small price to pay for the sport I enjoy, and if lic sales drop, so does support to wildlife and the power the game dept .'s have to keep hunting legal

as for buying a seond buck tag, I wish that was an option too, even a lottery for a second would be nice
But I also think , there is more than enought cheaters out there taking two now, giving them a excuse to be seen with a second buck, might make them kill even more
and by the way,
I believe the biggest deal with cheapers is simply,
folks/cheaters just kill a deer, no tag, butcher it up and move on, never even tagging it or trying to hide it
and its many times very well known who these folks are, and many turn a blind eye, hoping some day they get there due's, which many times never ever happens