Seeing that I messed up my one and only chance at a shooter this year, I would have to say never under estimate the size of a buck until you can clearly see him. I thought this was a 2 1/2 maybe 3 1/2 year old deer because of his spread. Guessing 14" inside spread. So I didn't even give him a second look until he got in the clear 30 yards behind me. Once I saw how big this deer was I never even had a chance to draw on him and he was 8 yards broadside and I still couldn't draw because I had given up on him too soon. I estimated this buck would have scored between 150"-160".