had a old timer with countless big bucks on his wall to slam them antlers the 25 all the way till gun season ...and i do and it works ....grunting i don't use alot of ..never had super results with it..scents i use are the buck bomb esp when the wind is blowing bad for a stand ...send that scent rite to them ...thats just how we do it .. and if you rattle be ready they will come in ....not every time but the time you least expect it ..last year i shot my buck 7 mins after i rattled but rite after i sat down there he was ...coming in on a rope ..then 2 days after i rattled in a 180-200 inch f**** monster but he just looked in the woods for about 20 mins he wasnt coming in ...this year i got a decoy and a snort wheeze for that ...lol good hunting and good luck