site renewal

[mrbb]

well glad to the site is still here, was wondering past two days if it was going to be back, due to the slow goies we have here lately?

SO< thanks Mike, glad your sticking with the ste
hope it picks too!

[00buck]

Hope fully it picks up saw round 20 deer herded up in a field tonight


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[mrbb]

well I'd like to think it might, but my hopes are not too high
seems MOST folks that come to this site are like Peeping Tom's
they look but never add anything and then leave after they see there fill! LOL

a shame this was once a super site, lots of good members that added to the site almost daily
making it a busy site all yr, and super busy in deer season
But life changes and well, I guess feelings got hurt and most members seemed to have moved on
a shame
used to even have summer camp outs and get togethers for members
and they were fun times
but who knows, maybe some new , current members or new ones will add more to the site, and it can again be a great site

[00buck]

Yeah I think we talked about this last year around this time


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[nomad_archer]

Yeah I think we talked about this last year around this time


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I believe we did as well.

[mrbb]

actually we covered this the past 3 yrs now,
slow slow and slower its been getting in off deer season!
and more and more folks visit this site look at treads and JUST leave, never adding anything to the site, a more and more common thiing here !

thus why the subject gets brought up as often as it does
maybe a waste of time, but??

[00buck]

Who knows if it worth it


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[mrbb]

well I think based on the fact I recall what the site once was?
to me trying to keep ti alive, is worth it~ well I guesss??
BUT sadly doesn't seem to working at all
just keeps getting slower and slower
all lookers mostly here, and so few rerplys to about any posts

and heck, the so called contest?? even that semed to just die off, or if anyone won, I have NO idea who it was, or what team or???

good old days I guess are gone now for good it seems!

[00buck]

Yeah there are a few that stayed and a few of us that are left posting and contest what winners haven't seen baker on in awhile


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[mrbb]

yes there are still a few guys hanging in besides me LOL

but even with these its still pretty slow here, don't blame anyone, as again, I know life gets in the way alot for many folks
as for Mike, not being on in a while ??
who know's
yrs back, he wasn't a ton either, and we had a LOT of memebers
so I don't blame him for a slow site
maybe the contest?? he should have been on top of that, but I am sure his life gets busy too

but being the starter of something, he should have followed up with it

sadly, most folks that got into it, are long gone so?? does it really matter??
maybe they will be back in the Fall, MAYBE not
turkey season will be here soon, but its never been a BIG draw here, so doubt that's much help for action here, same as trout season or fishing!

this is a bow deer hunting site, after deer season, its like a ghost town anymore!
shame IMO
many members we HAD had a lot of experince combined to provide info on a lot of hunting things and non hunting things
the camp outs were alot of fun>>
guess there gone too, NOT even sure any memebers that went to any are even left here besides 1 or 2>

[00buck]

Never attended the camp outs due to work but the cook out I was going to go to but in the spring and summer out to squirrel season I am fishing then back to hunting I still shoot my bow all the time and there are 110 tap talk followers it isn't that hard to drop in and post


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[mrbb]

yeah like I said, if you look at how many times a tread is viewed on the counter, and then how FEW replys, or even if ANY at all many times, its sad here!
like a bunch of perverts, just peeping and leaving LOL

[YouthHunter]

How you been man? Gonna try and get more involved again.

[mrbb]

well lomng time no see you there Youth, Good to see you checking in
been a slow site here and nice to see an older member even if your a younger guy LOl

been hanging in, but ben better LOL

[nomad_archer]

How you been man? Gonna try and get more involved again.

How is it going? I last time you were one here you were debating about going to college and career paths. Or at least I think that was part of it. How has that gone?

[00buck]

So there are at least 4 people still on here how's it going youth


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[Big_Holla]

I still check in now and then to see what some of you have been up to. Though lately it's been further in between times I have to admit. Amazed to see YouthHunter back on here.....how ya been Francis?! I won't get in to why so many left or what can fix things as it's all stuff in the past. Just wears me down even thinking about it. Will say one thing, I'm glad the people that are still on now and then care enough about each other to still try to talk about things without coming up with excuses all the time.

[mrbb]

Bigholla I'm glad to see you check in when you do, its nice to see some of the older members here. and I don't blame anyone that's left to go else where either, life has its ups and downs and NO point in being some place your not happy, be in a forum or what ever in life!

so good to see you here when you do!

[YouthHunter]

I been good, just busy working and trying to hunt. I ended up with joining the work force, its going good. I've got a few more opportunities starting to open up. Unfortunately I'm not so young anymore mrbb. I've still been dedicating all my time into hunting and fishing, hoping this year to purchase a property of my own.

[YouthHunter]

Hopefully this year, I can check in more. Have some more plans for this season, gonna poney up like 800$ for a new video camera. Experimenting for some plots.

[mrbb]

I been good, just busy working and trying to hunt. I ended up with joining the work force, its going good. I've got a few more opportunities starting to open up. Unfortunately I'm not so young anymore mrbb. I've still been dedicating all my time into hunting and fishing, hoping this year to purchase a property of my own.

NO one got any younger trhere youth, your still aLOT younger than me LOL
time to buy land IS NOW< , if you get the chance I will strongly suggest doing so, it will be an investemnt if NOTHING else, and you will come out ahead down the road, and NOTHING beats having your own place to hunt, oir just hang out on!
GO for it, be glad you did when your even older and its paid for LOL OR can sell and buy bigger or??
LAND they aion't making any more, , will be well worth the costs in the long run!
Best of luck to you on getting some

[mrbb]

ALso, there Youth, I wish you were closer to me, I will be soon getting rid of a bunch of food plot tool's after loosing my place here, SO once all things are settled legally speaking, I will need to remove and , then sell a bunch tools, and I'd sell to you for a deal too, as would like to help the youinger guys when I can, BUT being so far away,
I doubt it would be worth your time!
2 tractors , 2 disc's, a spring harrow, a cultipacker, a two row corn planter, side mower, and sure I am missing something LOL
will be up for sale soon here

[YouthHunter]

Well that's what I was thinking, I was being young and going to the bar a lot. I finally realized all that money, I have been putting into the bars can pay the monthly mortgage at the very least. Wanted to do that before, I move out and get it paid off to eventually build on. Sorry to hear that, I'm looking for some stuff to pull behind the quad. I've been looking a lot at stuff, possible tractor at some point.

[mrbb]

Youth its good to come to realize that spending money in a bar is a waste at an early age, I sure wish I learned a LOT sooner than I did, I was in my 30's when it sank in,a nd by that pint I wasted a small fortune in bars and on booze and chasing skirts LOL
which I would love nothing better than to get just HALF of it back again LOL

Nothing wrong with having fuin, but booze IMO< is a rather waste of money, goes in one end out the other, and can lead to troubles, more than good.

its a WHOLE lot better to spend them funds on land , as again, it will be an investment, that you can enjoy NOW<
and then in 20-30yrs you will have something worth a LOT more than what you paid, land always goes up in value, and at today's rates, MUCH much faster than it did 25 yrs ago!

as for food plot tools to use behind an ATV, depending what the land looks like RIGHT now, a lot depends on what tools will actually work or just be a waste of money too.
if its rather field like now with say tall grass weedy matter
the best thing to get first IF doing more than a 1/2 acre, is get a good atv sprayer, say a 25+ gallon one
and spray that site down a little after green up(plus a sprayer is one of the best ways to comntrol weed take over of your plots later ion, so a sprayer is a great investment for a food plot maker)
next will be , pending how thick of matter is on top, and how rocky the soil is!
get a GOOD heavy made for atv disc, they will be about 700+ dollars, NOT cheap but the better one's work the best, cheaper one's you will waste way more time than get things done!
OR if the ground is rather soft as in spring time and NOT terribly rocky, get a old spring harrow, you will find many of these laying about on older smaller farm, as MOST farmers in the 60-80's had them, they can be had CHEAP< many are sold often for like 50 bucks, they tend to be in 8-10 ft wide sections, that can be seperated into smaller 3 ft winde sections that an ATV can pull and be a great cheap tool to own for atv plot work
here is an add and a pic, they are adjustable for how deep you want to go and work really well, I have made many plots using the one's I have !
http://binghamton.americanlisted.com/garden-house/antique-spring-tooth-harrows-50-port-crane-new-york_21885715.html

Nxet will; be tow behind broadcast spreader for adding fertilizer and PELLITIZED lime, they do NOT work to add pulverized lime at all! for that you will need a drop spreader and they do NOT sell many that work well in larger than 50 lbs at a time amounts, the only company I know of that makes any is this Company
and yes there NICE, but VERY pricy!
http://www.groundbusters.com/catalog/lime-spreaders

IF you look about on older farms odds are you will find there old school made one, most are between 8 and 12 ft wide, so pending how tight a place to get into, they MIGHT not work, BUT I have seen many in great shape and even bought one for a 100 bucks that has been owrking and is still working for the past 15+ yrs
they are the originals, the above company just coppied them and makes them out of stainless steel over just metal!
BUT if you live in or have time to drive about older farms, you will find one, and the great thing is, farmers today have NO use for them, so most will sell if you ask! and there simple things , if needed to be fixed or repaired, , great tip here on how to save a LOT of oney on this tool!
OR look into getting lime bulk spread, its cheaper to buy it and they deliver and spread it too, PENDING the size and where it has to be spread, this alone can save you hundreds or more alone
and its also why older farmers have NO use for there old drop spreaders LOL

next will be
bad seed broadcaster, a bag is the best way to seed up to about 2 acres, food plot seeds are NOT cheap, and the bag is way more precise than a atv mounter broadcast seeder , I will bet this every time, I owned a few too LOL

next will be a tow behind fertilizer spreader, the one's with the sealeed gear boxes are bst but pricy-er, but make fast work of getting fertilizer down, they come in different sizes, I like the 175+ lb model, best!

and last will be some sort of a mower, this can be a harder one
IF you know of anyone selling a cheap riding mower, they can work, IF they can be raised high enough, as you don't normally want to mow below say 5 inches!
or a tow behind atv unit, which are never cheap! but do work, BUT your also running tow motors over one, so fuel costs can get higher!

Hey I have been building food plots since about 1989, I have learned a ton over the yrs, be more than happy to help in any way here I can to help you
IF you ever buy a tractor, I highly suggest getting a 40+ hp model, and if your in any muddy or hilly grounds, Look for a 4x4 one too, ON a 4x4 model you can get away with slightkly less HP than a 2x4 model
but 2x4 odels will always be cheaper and less parts to upkeep!

hp is needed to both pull certian things as well as run certian things off the Pto, 40 hp is about good, 50 being better LOL
but don't really need anything over that a good 50 hp tractor will do about anything a hunter will ever need done!

Good luck and sorry being long here!

[YouthHunter]

I've always appreciated your help. For what I'm doing right now, I don't have a lot of room. Its not going to be huge, it's in a wooded area, with just some ground cover but its not in very much. All big wood, no small trees or anything.I've been looking for an old spring harrow, but having trouble around here for some reason. Plan on going to an auction next weekend. I just planned on doing clover and honey hole mix I've researched. I feel like they will be able to make it. I just want to experiment with it. Also why I want to try and purchase my own piece of property as soon as I can.

[mrbb]

any thing you planty is better than not planting it LOL
in the woods is very hard, for several reason, once green up, leaves prevent a TON of light to alloow things to grow, then all them leaves both on the ground NOW and come fall, they make a lot of acid to the soil, making a bunch of lime needed to make things grow
they do hjave some seed blends that will work better in shady spots, but most ate HYPE on a bag LOL all seeds need sunlight tyo grow and strive, just as a good soil with food in it for them
as for finding a spring harrow, My best advice is drive about farm areas with cash in the pocket, and look for rusty lawn items LOL
odds are you will find several faster than youi think, and hey, 20-50 bucks in gas will more likely save you money than going to an auction, folks at auctions know deer hunters are suckers for smaller food plot things, look at tractor prices, they more than double in the past 10-12 yrs doe to how popular foot plots and hunters have become
so, looking on farms will save you money IF you have the time, as we all know time is money in a way!

like I said, IF you were closer, I have 3 of them now two singles for atv's and a big one for behind the tractor, and I know here about 25 opf them are on farms in my area! LOL
BUT what you would spend in gas to get here you'd loose money! HAHA!

don't forget, many places rent out equipment, and some times thats a better rioute too than buying and storing
and up keeping
from a walk behind tiller, or a 4x4 tractor/tiller/front end loader!

in wooded area's I think creating good mineral sites might be a better idea than food plots, as that sunlight gets loweer as the yr goes on and most die out before hunting season LOL
where a good mineral lick might get action all yr!
good luck

[YouthHunter]

It's got some openings and get pretty good sun light actually, I just wanted to give it a shot to see. I've been running the mineral and good luck, they just don't have much for food except for natural browse. Surprisingly not much the farmers do in this area.

[mrbb]

Things to try maybe are IF there are mast crop tree's, start adding some lime and fertilizer to trees near your sets, it will make them make sweeter fruits, nuts and such, making deer want to feed more near your set. Doesn't work the first yr, but second and third yrs it does!
Rye grass can have some attraction to deer, and will growmaybe best too about trees LOL
seeds tend to be cheaper too Lolt

[Wolfe]

Hey everyone!!! Hope all is well. I know I haven't been very consistent on posting since deer season ended. The end of Feb I had my first kid so she has consumed a WHOLE lot of my time lately. It was really nice of her to wait until after deer season to arrive though lol. I definitely love this site. I have learned a ton and gotten great advice since joining this past fall. I am really looking forward to the weather breaking. Last year I bought my house and 10 acres mid-summer and spent the rest of the summer getting the house in shape. I am now looking forward to putting in some time with the property. I have about a 120ft x 60ft pond that I want to spruce up. It has unbelievable bass and bluegill in it now. Wouldn't mind getting a few catfish in there and a small dock built. Then reading all of the talk about food plots on here has me thinking about doing a small acre plot to see what happens. My land is interesting. I have 10 acres but only about an acre of woods so I am looking for all kinds of ways to maximize my opportunities on it. To my west it backups to 75+ acres of woods where deer bed like crazy (which I am going to try my best to get some permission to hunt on this year). North is a 40 acre corn field. East 10 acres of woods. South is 3 houses on 10 acre plots a piece. So I have good cover and food all around me. I have been lucky this season and got two does on that acre of woods I own because I have a feeder set up just outside of my tree line and they pass under my stand from the 75+ acres to go to my feeder to eat. Only issue with it has been one ran back into the 75+ acres that I didn't own and had to go knocking on a door to get permission to retrieve the deer which was awkward. Again, going to definitely try to build relationships with those neighbors so I can at least get permission to retrieve any deer I shoot. Early in the season I had a few giant bucks drinking out of my pond. So my goal is to put that food plot near the pond so they have food and water near each other. My hopes are to draw out a big buck again. I figure doing some things here and there I can maximize my opportunities even with just one acre of woods.

My dilemma I have right now is what to buy to help maintain my property. I was sold on a 4 wheeler but I am now leaning towards a side by side or gator. I like the idea of the bed and more CC to push snow off of my 200 yard driveway. Only down fall is the price of the side by side compared to the 4 wheeler. I am on the lookout for a side by side with some hours on it to cut the cost back. I figure my property is completely flat so the wear and tear should be less then something hilly and having the higher hours might not be bad if I can get it at the right price.

Anyway, as you can see I have a lot on my mind with my land. I am sure I will be on here more in the future to get some advice. My only problem is I have more ideas then money lol.

[YouthHunter]

Congrats on the little one. My buddies having a kid that's due in late September. Asked him if he was nuts to wait until the season starts. My buddy just got a side by side and those things are amazing.

[nomad_archer]

Wolfe congrats on the little one!! That is great news.

[00buck]

Congrats Wolfe and they take a lot of time but you won't be saying that when they get older you will wonder where the time went


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[bmwlife1976]

I have been looking for this site I was a member before .

[mrbb]

congrats Wolfe on the new addition to the family
as for what to buy for the property, if you wanted my siuggestion, I suggest a honda Foreman ATv, in a manual shift, there work horse's, no belts to wear out,(yes folks will debate this till the world ends)
there geared lower than most all other atv's, so thats why they work so well for work!

the advantage of an ATV as you know is cost, BUT you can get in smaller places they have more HP per LB than many side by sides
and you can just get a trailer to tow behind the atv when you need to haul things
way too many ATV's today are made for folks that want sporty atv;s even the big cc'd one's
they actually IMO don't work as well, as they were designed more for trail riding at a brisk rate, and need that extra air to cool them
the 700-800's we have at hunting camp will pover heat doing same jobs as our smaller one's in less time!
YES they have the hp , but they don't work well when driven slow for a long time, thus poor working atv's in my eye's


IF you wanted something better than an ATV, get a small tractor, before buying a SXS(side by side) for work
NOW if you want a sxs to take the kids and family trail riding, thats another story, BUT for workimg on a property, an atv or a tractor is money better spent
MY older 400 honda foreman, has maintained a drive way that is about a 1/2 mile long for 15+ yrs now plowing snow, never been a problem, and I get a LOT of snow
actually got 8 inches today,
I have build many many foods pl;ots with it up to 3 acres in size(LOTS of hrs needed and don't recommend doing this big a plot on an atv LOL)
and its maintained 16 acres of food plots for 15+ yrs too, spread 80 tons of gravel with it last summer alone too!
foremans in manual shift are hard to be for a work atv seen many models come and go at hunting camp and what friends have had
and none have ever out worked a honda foreman! and we went thru many many atv;s over the past 25+ yrs