sw ohio mentor?

[213chrisp]

im located in lebanon and still trying to find a mentor to help me with some hunts if someones willing to help?
i did manage to find a older gentleman that is willing to let me hunt his land in morrow ohio, about 15 acres total that he owns, majority of it is wooded land with some hills, and has 2 utility lines that runs threw the first third of his wood lots, so its a natural clearing, i did spot a feeder on his neighbors house and he said the guy does hunt once in a blue moon on his own property as well. according to the land owner there is deer every evening on his land where i probably would be setup and his grandsons did set up a small blind last year , but according to him they wont be hunting this year due to a wedding and wont have the time so sounds like i got super lucky this year with getting private late with no pressure. but well find out.

tomorrow i plan on putting up 2 trail cams and walk the woods to get familure with them and then go back in 2 weeks to get the cameras out to see what deer he has around his land and go from there.

[Genesis 9:3]

Find a deer trail and put out a cheap red mineral block from tractor supply... place your stand nearby. Top it off every now and then with some type of sugar (molasses is what i've used). That will become a new favorite place for the deer... good luck!

[213chrisp]

well the land owner does have molasses covered dried corn that is over a year old and said i could use it, its 2 large boxes full of the stuff, so was going to get a pvc pipe and just lie it up against a tree and make a small gravity feeder from it and setup the camera on it. i just gotta find the trails in the woods, as its not clearly vissable from the 5 min walk threw with the land owner yesterday while i was working LOL... i work for cable company and was servicing his cable, which is how i meet the guy :)

[mrbb]

I would be careful about any corn that is old and had been coated with anything
mold gorws on damp corn, its one of teh main reasons farmers store it and dry it like they do

feeding deer old corn that has any mold on it can kill them if they eat enough of it, same for other critters that eat it as well

just a heads up here!

[213chrisp]

10-4, would it be obvious if it had mold like normal food would? he has had it stored inside his barn wrapped and sealed in a plastic bag inside the boxes, he had no clue what it was and told him thats what it was.

[213chrisp]

also... this??
http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/store/american-stockman-big-6reg%3B-trace-mineral-salt-block-50-lb#review-tab

[00buck]

That's the block I use buy 5 or so a year work decent for the price

[mrbb]

yes and no, most times mold will be visable to the ye, be it grean or brown or even white, and like colors,
BUT many times there can be mold and its just NOT yet to the surface to be seen?
any corn that got wet and didn't get dried or used ina timely fashion, can have mold starting to grow on it
deers have the ability to process a certian level of bad this and that, HAVE to to be able to survive at times
but its never a goodn idea to feed them it if you can avoid it

IF it looks good, has no color chages or funky smells
I would say OK
but its your call,

as for Tractor supply store mineral blocks
of every block I have triedup here I always got the best results with there's
so I too like em!

[213chrisp]

so went out today to get some foot time in the woods and the landowner showed me around, and found 2 tree stands already in the woods, attached lower is the pictures of the stand. the one looks good so probably spend alot of time there, like the location and hes got alot of acorns already falling to the ground so deer should be abondance, i did put a mineral block out in the clearning where the power lines are and covered with molasses, also when i put the block out it did fall apart some so i did take that chunk and put out by the stand in the woods, also covered it with molasses, both have a deer cam near each of these locations and ill leave them up for 2 weeks. plan to go and pull the cameras and see whats going on with the deer and there movement. and probably relocate them.

here some eye candy for you all to see whats going on hopefully.

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[213chrisp]

also forgot to mention, he said his grandson hunts here as well, and they was for him but hes getting married this saturday and probably wont be using it this season that hes knows of so theres a good chance ill be the only ones in the woods. which is a plus, getting super excited about this season. also said his grandson has seen multiple deer that walked directly under the stand threw a small obvious path and goes right to where i put the mineral block and molasses.

[00buck]

Why the molasses on the mineral block

[nomad_archer]

Personally I would try not to use someone elses stand especially the grandsons. I would not to be to keen on someone using my stand. Especially putting a mineral block in the area as well. I am just thinking there has to be enough room there to come up with your own setup. At least if you do use the grandsons try to leave it like you were not there. So I would find another setup and move the block to that location. I would try to avoid issues with the grandson in case he decides to sneak in a quick hunt for his own sanity before the wedding.

[00buck]

Personally I would try not to use someone elses stand especially the grandsons. I would not to be to keen on someone using my stand. Especially putting a mineral block in the area as well. I am just thinking there has to be enough room there to come up with your own setup. At least if you do use the grandsons try to leave it like you were not there. So I would find another setup and move the block to that location. I would try to avoid issues with the grandson in case he decides to sneak in a quick hunt for his own sanity before the wedding.
I agree with this nothing like someone else hunting your stand

[00buck]

Personally I would try not to use someone elses stand especially the grandsons. I would not to be to keen on someone using my stand. Especially putting a mineral block in the area as well. I am just thinking there has to be enough room there to come up with your own setup. At least if you do use the grandsons try to leave it like you were not there. So I would find another setup and move the block to that location. I would try to avoid issues with the grandson in case he decides to sneak in a quick hunt for his own sanity before the wedding.
I agree with this nothing like someone else hunting your stand

[213chrisp]

That was my first thought. And there the land owners stands. He bought them for his grandson to use. And keep insisting that I could use them which had me confused at first. I didn't want to offend or upset the man as well and don't want to upset the grandson either. I did however have to clear put a lot of smaller brush that was in front of the stand. About 3 ft wide by 15 yards or so to clear a path just to get to the stand freely. I had the discussion about his grandson and he said he was almost positive he's not hinting or he would of already been in the woods clearing out the stand.

As for more room there is and there isn't kinda complicated on how his woods are setup but. The stands that are currently setup are probably smack dab in middle of his plots.
The good one is on the souther 1/3 and the smaller stand is on the northern 1/3 . I can't go east because there isn't Much clearing or trees to work with. And if I go west out of range. It's the same path that the deer come into that area so I'd be hunting the same spots... Kinda a pickle in a hard place. I do think I can hunt property edge on the south side but I don't want to risk trespassing.

I'm going back in 2 weeks to look at the cameras and I'll have another discussion about his grandkid to find out what he wants me to do. Because I do feel bad there not using it.

Thanks for the help guys you all rock. And these are things that I just don't know which is why I ask.

[213chrisp]

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[213chrisp]

The blue lines are the atv paths. The outside lines are his property edge just about. The two waypoints are the 2 stands. The one to the left is the smaller older stand. And the one to the right is the new field and stream dual person stand. The way he explained it to me is they come from the south and head north directly under that stand and head out of the tree line to the clearing where the power lines are at. So my options could be move top right corner . Or top left corner of the plot. ??????

[mrbb]

I too strongly agree, NEVER use others treestands, un;ess your darn good friends with that person and they tell you to!
even if the land owner says OK< the guy who hunts out of them might have issue's with you using them, and them issue's might cause streesss between them and the land ownrr and that can some times lead to the pwner picking side's
and normally Family wins that war!

I have had issue's many times with finding folks using my stands and can tell you, its Pissed me off every sinlge time, someone used one of my stand '
's, for these reasons
one I spent the time to set stand up,
two, I have no idea what scent control they practice, and or what there hunting skills are
as IF they get busted they can ruin that set up on me??
thus further making me Mad
Three, I personally and so do many hunters, save stand sites for different time so f the season, or just to NOT over hunt a stand
if someone is usning them without me knowing, I have NO way to know hopw often a stand is being hunted, and I can be wasting my time sitting in a stand that had put pressure on deer in that area!

My suggestion to you would be to contact this gradson, get to know him, work with him, an DON"T just go by the landowners call
YES , he owns the land, and can say so, but again, if this grandson gets mad, and make's a fuss(very easy to see happening) you could end up loosing out more than he will!

Hunting over food plots is great, you normally get to see a lot of things and can surely kill a nice buck in one
BUT its also just as good setting up behind/farther bnack from one too, maybe even better,
due to food plots are open, and most smarter older bucks, tend to stay out of open area's in day light, thus being in a staging area behind a plot, can work out better some times
so I would check out places like this for possible stand site's
and look for places to set your own stands up
and??
I would also try working with the Grandson on stand set up and when or IF he will be there, as again NOT to over hunt one area
like if he plans to MAYEB hunt in first week in Nov, ask where on the farm he wants to hunt, and hunt different sides?? away from him, , two guys hunting same area and NOT talking to each other, can lead to them walking in on your sets, or vise versa, making an early morning sit go south fast if they like to show up at 8 am, and walk thru where your sitting, or leave early or??
hunting the same property, is always best to work together, will up both your odds of tagging out!
and will build a stronger relationship with the land owner, and who know, possible land owner, people tend to leave things to family, so being nice to this grandson, might pay off down the road if he ends up with them place some day!
things to think about maybe??

[213chrisp]

thanks for the help mrbb, ill talk to the owner and have him make contact with the grandkid and go from there, he did tell his mother and she was all for me hunting there as well, and i do see both sides of the story, as for food plots there really isnt any good food plots that i know of anywhere near these lands besides the acorns on the ground in the woods and the farm a few properties away, i think they are bedding in his woods and the neighbors next to him.
ill probably scout that north east corner near the power lines about 50 yards in the woods and see if i can find a small clearning or a decent setup where i can setup a my climber at , which i did find alot of tracks in the woods, but i would be maybe 75 yards away from there stand that is currently up. because his woods is not that big, i would bet the area of hunting is maybe 5-8 acers, and huntable land is probably 3-4 acers, rest is too tick or all hills.

[213chrisp]

did swing by today as i was working on a neighbors house of his and spoke with him for about 10 mins, and i asked him if his grandsons knew i was hunting his land and he said yes he told them the other day and they was ok with it according to him, he did ask that i let him know when i plan to hunt so he can let them know according as well, which i said i would do for him as its the least i could for himself being hes letting me hunt there land.
so far it seems like everything will work out ok.

[mrbb]

I would also ask if maybe he could get the grandson to let you know what/when he is hunting as well
as again, having someone walk thru a set, can make tenpers flair LOL

working together is the best way when possible
best of luck
season is closing in fast now too!

[00buck]

I would even setup a time to meet grandson and get his number so you don't have to relay messages threw another person as sometimes words change and or just forgotten to relay it happens all the time

[Toke2]

I would even setup a time to meet grandson and get his number so you don't have to relay messages threw another person as sometimes words change and or just forgotten to relay it happens all the time

All good advice here. Meeting him and exchanging info would be the right move. Looks like you have scouted the area pretty well, while he is preparing for a wedding right? I would think he would love to see some of your trail cam pics and in turn perhaps he could share some tips on that piece of property. I know some hunters are not willing to share tactics, but worth a try. You could end up with a long-term invite to hunt his family land. Plus, as this site is evidence of, we all like to share our good and bad days in the woods... Doesn't take much to gain a new hunting buddy....

[Genesis 9:3]

also... this??
http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/store/american-stockman-big-6reg%3B-trace-mineral-salt-block-50-lb#review-tab

That is exactly what I was referring to... also, the molasses is to help the deer find the minerals. I don't know if deer can smell a salt block, but I figured it would be a good way to introduce them to the minerals faster than if you left it alone... in addition, they also like the sugar, which is another attractant... it's just like putting out apples and other feeds.

[00buck]

That is exactly what I was referring to... also, the molasses is to help the deer find the minerals. I don't know if deer can smell a salt block, but I figured it would be a good way to introduce them to the minerals faster than if you left it alone... in addition, they also like the sugar, which is another attractant... it's just like putting out apples and other feeds.
Interesting might have to give it a try on new mineral site

[213chrisp]

updated pics from the trail cams i put up 2 weeks ago, cant wait to get out there and do some hunting...

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and if you look hard enough, thats the tree stand in question just to the right of that tree on the right 1/3rd of the picture.